Comments on: An Onslaught of Alonim

By: mominisrael

mominisrael — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:03:27 +0000

good point about the weekend papers. Esp. since the alonim are full of stuff that’s not Torah, including ads and columns, Just like the newspapers.
I thought hirhurim mutarim means that you could think about business on Shabbat.

By: Lion of Zion

Lion of Zion — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:53:51 +0000

“Again, most people say the alonim must go into the genizah.”
and the weekend papers that have a devar torah also?
“hirhurim mutarim”
i’ve never understood what that means in the poem. (it is one of may favorite zemirot)

By: mominisrael

mominisrael — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:27:17 +0000

Better than talking or napping–maybe, but still disrespectful.
I was also wondering what is wrong with reading the ads–hirhurim mutarim–but I have heard people say it’s a problem.
Again, most people say the alonim must go into the genizah.
LOL about the Cairo Genizah. Hopefully future historians will be able to access blogs.

By: Lion of Zion

Lion of Zion — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:02:03 +0000

“people tend to read them in the middle of prayers or speeches”
better than talking and/or napping
“Second, most are chock full of ads, and reading the ads may not be permissible on the Sabbath.”
what’s the problem?
“According to Jewish law, holy books and papers may not simply be thrown away . . .”
iirc, there are different views on what can’t be thrown away. some people hold that anything with hebrew letters is a problem; others say only if it has shem ha-meforash.
“The massive Cairo Genizah . . .”
one of the reasons that the cairo genizah was so valuable is that it contained many secular documents as well. do you want to deny futire historians the source material they need to study contemporary israeli life?

By: mominisrael

mominisrael — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:37:37 +0000

“Alonim sound like shabbat-paper-blogs!”
Perceptive.
They don’t have awards, but last Purim Olam Katan had parodies of the others.
Every vote counts, thanks.

By: Juggling Frogs

Juggling Frogs — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:43:08 +0000

Alonim sound like shabbat-paper-blogs!
I wonder if they’ll have awards – just turn down the corner if you vote for this one, sent the rest to the geniza…
Good luck on the Weblogs, Mother-in-Israel. I only voted once, but I meant it!

By: mominisrael

mominisrael — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:24:05 +0000

I’m glad your feelings don’t affect your relationship with your MIL. I still hope that you can find peace with the situation.

By: merkazbabe

merkazbabe — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:07:17 +0000

Ora- My SIL is due in January with #5.
MII: I actually do have a decent relationship with my MIL, even though deep down I have resentment. I just don’t let the bad feelings get in the way of shalom bayit and getting along with my daughters’ savta (and my husband’s mom!)
We used to live around the corner from them and now live about an hour away, which helps things.

By: mominisrael

mominisrael — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:49:16 +0000

Ora–nice to see you’re still around. I missed you.
RA–Yuck. I hope you have a different high school option for your daughter.

By: Regular Anonymous

Regular Anonymous — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:10:26 +0000

In my neck of the religious Zionist woods there is growing sentiment that all things secular are best avoided.
One friend proudly proclaims that she never reads anything secular. A neighbor just pulled her kid out of the yeshiva tichonit hativa and sent him to a non-bagrut yeshiva. Teachers at the local ulpana are discouraging girls from Sherut Leumi, urging them to get married straight out of high school.