Comments on: Seat Belt Safety: It Won’t Make a Difference http://www.amotherinisrael.com/2008/10/05/it-wont-make-a-difference/ A community about parenting, Judaism, and Israeli living. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:06:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: mominisrael http://www.amotherinisrael.com/2008/10/05/it-wont-make-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-8902 mominisrael Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:15:57 +0000 http://amotherinisrael.com/?p=529#comment-8902 Erica--it's hard to wrap my head around such a warped idea. Live Free and Die indeed. Erica–it’s hard to wrap my head around such a warped idea. Live Free and Die indeed.

]]> By: Erica http://www.amotherinisrael.com/2008/10/05/it-wont-make-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-8900 Erica Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:37:30 +0000 http://amotherinisrael.com/?p=529#comment-8900 Robin wrote: <i>I always make everyone buckle up, but this summer we were in New Hampshire (a US state) where they don’t have a seatbelt law at all for those over 18 – my 7.5 year old couldn’t understand how that could be, how a grownup could knowingly choose to do something so stupid and reckless.</I> Undoubtedly a perversion of General Stark's statement "Live Free or Die" which is New Hampshire's state motto. I once heard a radio personality claiming that he always unbuckles his seat belt as a display of his right vs. government to decide what's best for him - but I think in that case it's less political philosophy and more like a childish resentment of anyone else telling him what to do. (In Judaism we have the opposite - we might fulfill some commandments out of human logic, but we recognize the greater value of fulfilling them because we are commanded. Here the guy throws out his logic because he's commanded.) Robin wrote: I always make everyone buckle up, but this summer we were in New Hampshire (a US state) where they don’t have a seatbelt law at all for those over 18 – my 7.5 year old couldn’t understand how that could be, how a grownup could knowingly choose to do something so stupid and reckless.

Undoubtedly a perversion of General Stark’s statement “Live Free or Die” which is New Hampshire’s state motto.

I once heard a radio personality claiming that he always unbuckles his seat belt as a display of his right vs. government to decide what’s best for him – but I think in that case it’s less political philosophy and more like a childish resentment of anyone else telling him what to do.

(In Judaism we have the opposite – we might fulfill some commandments out of human logic, but we recognize the greater value of fulfilling them because we are commanded. Here the guy throws out his logic because he’s commanded.)

]]> By: triLcat http://www.amotherinisrael.com/2008/10/05/it-wont-make-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-3020 triLcat Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:41:38 +0000 http://amotherinisrael.com/?p=529#comment-3020 The reason that most accidents occur within 5 miles of home is that most car rides don't go much more than that anyway. As for babies in the front vs the back, if there's an airbag, the airbag can be deadly to a baby in the front. The reason that most accidents occur within 5 miles of home is that most car rides don’t go much more than that anyway.
As for babies in the front vs the back, if there’s an airbag, the airbag can be deadly to a baby in the front.

]]> By: mother in israel http://www.amotherinisrael.com/2008/10/05/it-wont-make-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-3019 mother in israel Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:25:58 +0000 http://amotherinisrael.com/?p=529#comment-3019 Keren, I'll add that two of my kids read it before me and each pointed it out to me separately. They had the same take as I did. Keren, I’ll add that two of my kids read it before me and each pointed it out to me separately. They had the same take as I did.

]]> By: mother in israel http://www.amotherinisrael.com/2008/10/05/it-wont-make-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-3018 mother in israel Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:24:16 +0000 http://amotherinisrael.com/?p=529#comment-3018 Keren, that's a good line about short trips. Ostensibly, that's what it was about. But if so most of the things she mentioned were irrelevant. To me it was clear that that was not the real complaint. Keren, that’s a good line about short trips.
Ostensibly, that’s what it was about. But if so most of the things she mentioned were irrelevant. To me it was clear that that was not the real complaint.

]]> By: Keren http://www.amotherinisrael.com/2008/10/05/it-wont-make-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-3017 Keren Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:09:16 +0000 http://amotherinisrael.com/?p=529#comment-3017 About not putting on a belt for a short trip, I always tell my family that the car Has vehallila, that goes into you, will not ask how long you have been travelling before they do that (if you are only going on a five minute journey) I think the point of the olam katan article was that the policewoman was uneccesarily rude and aggressive and could have made the same point in a politer and friendlier way. About not putting on a belt for a short trip, I always tell my family that the car Has vehallila, that goes into you, will not ask how long you have been travelling before they do that (if you are only going on a five minute journey)
I think the point of the olam katan article was that the policewoman was uneccesarily rude and aggressive and could have made the same point in a politer and friendlier way.

]]> By: mother in israel http://www.amotherinisrael.com/2008/10/05/it-wont-make-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-3016 mother in israel Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:00:56 +0000 http://amotherinisrael.com/?p=529#comment-3016 Abbi, If the baby is coughing, it's best to keep an eye on the situation and let him bring up the object/food himself. Babies have a strong gag reflex. But if the baby is truly choking, he won't be able to cry or cough. Abbi,
If the baby is coughing, it’s best to keep an eye on the situation and let him bring up the object/food himself. Babies have a strong gag reflex. But if the baby is truly choking, he won’t be able to cry or cough.

]]> By: Abbi http://www.amotherinisrael.com/2008/10/05/it-wont-make-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-3015 Abbi Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:20:00 +0000 http://amotherinisrael.com/?p=529#comment-3015 I can't imagine a baby would be that silent if chas v'shalom she's choking. And in any case, if that happened, you'd have to stop the car to take the baby out and help him recover. I've stopped a few times already when i've heard coughing that scared me (Eli spit up and some went back down the wrong way.) Also, hours long car trips are probably a few times a year anyway. We keep babies in the back, it hasn't been a problem so far. I can’t imagine a baby would be that silent if chas v’shalom she’s choking. And in any case, if that happened, you’d have to stop the car to take the baby out and help him recover.
I’ve stopped a few times already when i’ve heard coughing that scared me (Eli spit up and some went back down the wrong way.)
Also, hours long car trips are probably a few times a year anyway. We keep babies in the back, it hasn’t been a problem so far.

]]> By: mother in israel http://www.amotherinisrael.com/2008/10/05/it-wont-make-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-3014 mother in israel Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:28:16 +0000 http://amotherinisrael.com/?p=529#comment-3014 AR: I agree that unless there is a safe place to stop, a crying baby should be ignored during driving. But leaving a baby in the backseat, out of view (I know they have those mirrors) for hours at a time doesn't seem safe to me. I'm talking about the possibility of a baby choking, for example. AR: I agree that unless there is a safe place to stop, a crying baby should be ignored during driving. But leaving a baby in the backseat, out of view (I know they have those mirrors) for hours at a time doesn’t seem safe to me. I’m talking about the possibility of a baby choking, for example.

]]> By: RR http://www.amotherinisrael.com/2008/10/05/it-wont-make-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-3013 RR Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:00:48 +0000 http://amotherinisrael.com/?p=529#comment-3013 Oy, if I only had a nickel for every time I bit my tongue so as not to yell at the people letting their kids bounce around the backseat.... Haredim and Arabs seem to be the worst offenders, though I've seen plenty of "regular old Israelis" engage in horrible parenting like this. Oy, if I only had a nickel for every time I bit my tongue so as not to yell at the people letting their kids bounce around the backseat…. Haredim and Arabs seem to be the worst offenders, though I’ve seen plenty of “regular old Israelis” engage in horrible parenting like this.

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