Comments on: Who Will Be Watching Your Kids Next Year? http://www.amotherinisrael.com/free-kindergarten-teacher-shortage/ A community surrounding parenting, Judaism, and Israeli living. Wed, 16 May 2012 19:32:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Abbi http://www.amotherinisrael.com/free-kindergarten-teacher-shortage/comment-page-1/#comment-22980 Abbi Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:00:14 +0000 http://www.amotherinisrael.com/?p=7391#comment-22980 Personally, I've never heard of anyone being rejected from an ironi gan because of lack of room if the child fit the age criteria. Ranaana and Modiin also have Chabad/Shas ganim that are part of the public system. That's strange that PT seems to have such a lack of public ganim for 3 year olds. Personally, I’ve never heard of anyone being rejected from an ironi gan because of lack of room if the child fit the age criteria. Ranaana and Modiin also have Chabad/Shas ganim that are part of the public system. That’s strange that PT seems to have such a lack of public ganim for 3 year olds.

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]]> By: marion http://www.amotherinisrael.com/free-kindergarten-teacher-shortage/comment-page-1/#comment-22979 marion Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:02:36 +0000 http://www.amotherinisrael.com/?p=7391#comment-22979 perhaps it varies by municipality but in MA even the Chabad ganim are part of the public system. i think there is ONE private gan and it's an English language gan... perhaps it varies by municipality but in MA even the Chabad ganim are part of the public system. i think there is ONE private gan and it’s an English language gan…

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]]> By: mother in israel http://www.amotherinisrael.com/free-kindergarten-teacher-shortage/comment-page-1/#comment-22964 mother in israel Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:00:28 +0000 http://www.amotherinisrael.com/?p=7391#comment-22964 THis was in response to Marion. In Petach Tikva, there are only a handful of religious ganim run by the city for 3yos--there are many more secular ganim but most 3yos are not in municipal ganim. They They will have to open dozens of ganim to accommodate these kids. THis was in response to Marion. In Petach Tikva, there are only a handful of religious ganim run by the city for 3yos–there are many more secular ganim but most 3yos are not in municipal ganim. They They will have to open dozens of ganim to accommodate these kids.
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]]> By: Abbi http://www.amotherinisrael.com/free-kindergarten-teacher-shortage/comment-page-1/#comment-22963 Abbi Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:16:21 +0000 http://www.amotherinisrael.com/?p=7391#comment-22963 What do you mean by this: "The municipalities haven’t offered ganim to all 3-4 year olds". I've never heard of someone being turned away from an ironi trom or trom trom gan who wanted to send their child. What do you mean by this: “The municipalities haven’t offered ganim to all 3-4 year olds”. I’ve never heard of someone being turned away from an ironi trom or trom trom gan who wanted to send their child.

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]]> By: Hava http://www.amotherinisrael.com/free-kindergarten-teacher-shortage/comment-page-1/#comment-22961 Hava Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:07:35 +0000 http://www.amotherinisrael.com/?p=7391#comment-22961 http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?ID=257689&R=R1 http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?ID=257689&R=R1

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]]> By: mother in israel http://www.amotherinisrael.com/free-kindergarten-teacher-shortage/comment-page-1/#comment-22960 mother in israel Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:04:57 +0000 http://www.amotherinisrael.com/?p=7391#comment-22960 The municipalities haven't offered ganim to all 3-4 year olds. Many of these kids are currently in private ganim. There is also natural population increase--I read that a new gan's worth of children is born each month in Elad! The municipalities haven’t offered ganim to all 3-4 year olds. Many of these kids are currently in private ganim. There is also natural population increase–I read that a new gan’s worth of children is born each month in Elad!
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]]> By: mother in israel http://www.amotherinisrael.com/free-kindergarten-teacher-shortage/comment-page-1/#comment-22959 mother in israel Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:40:07 +0000 http://www.amotherinisrael.com/?p=7391#comment-22959 If this post made working mothers feel judged or somehow unwelcome here, I am truly sorry. That was not my intention. I do feel that the personal attack is undeserved. To question whether full-time large-group daycare is the direction that the government should be heading is not the same as judging mothers who return to work. Quality of daycare should not be a taboo subject. It should be open for discussion like any other parenting topic. But I see that it is an extremely sensitive topic and people's feelings were hurt. On this blog I do devote space to supporting mothers (or fathers! where did you get this idea that I think it's all on the mothers--I don't and I think that remark was a low blow) who work part time or stay home. That is where my experience lies and I'm not going to apologize for that. I feel that parents who give up or delay careers do not get enough support in our culture. BUT that is not the same thing as judging mothers who work full time and rely on day care. If I had to do it again, I might have made different choices myself. I do not think that all mothers of small children should give up their careers and stay home for 5 years. I also have posts on working mothers, like the <a href="http://www.amotherinisrael.com/tips-toddler-adjust-daycare/" title="Tips for Helping an 18-Month-Old Adjust to Daycare" rel="nofollow">Tips for Helping an 18-Month-Old Adjust to Day Care</a> or <a href="http://www.amotherinisrael.com/guest-post-breastfeeding-working-mother/" title="Guest Post: Breastfeeding and the Working Mother" rel="nofollow">Ariela's guest post on working and breastfeeding.</a> And I would be happy to include more posts that support working mothers. If this post made working mothers feel judged or somehow unwelcome here, I am truly sorry. That was not my intention.

I do feel that the personal attack is undeserved. To question whether full-time large-group daycare is the direction that the government should be heading is not the same as judging mothers who return to work. Quality of daycare should not be a taboo subject. It should be open for discussion like any other parenting topic. But I see that it is an extremely sensitive topic and people’s feelings were hurt.

On this blog I do devote space to supporting mothers (or fathers! where did you get this idea that I think it’s all on the mothers–I don’t and I think that remark was a low blow) who work part time or stay home. That is where my experience lies and I’m not going to apologize for that. I feel that parents who give up or delay careers do not get enough support in our culture.

BUT that is not the same thing as judging mothers who work full time and rely on day care. If I had to do it again, I might have made different choices myself. I do not think that all mothers of small children should give up their careers and stay home for 5 years.

I also have posts on working mothers, like the Tips for Helping an 18-Month-Old Adjust to Day Care or Ariela’s guest post on working and breastfeeding. And I would be happy to include more posts that support working mothers.

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]]> By: teen in america http://www.amotherinisrael.com/free-kindergarten-teacher-shortage/comment-page-1/#comment-22958 teen in america Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:18:21 +0000 http://www.amotherinisrael.com/?p=7391#comment-22958 I've been getting home at 7 since 8th grade, after a school-day that lasts until 5:45. The teachers only teach about half of that time at most. I think that the teachers won't be losing anything by this unless their children attend these schools. I know that I spend very little time with my family during the week now, and that is a potential loss to the mothers. I’ve been getting home at 7 since 8th grade, after a school-day that lasts until 5:45. The teachers only teach about half of that time at most. I think that the teachers won’t be losing anything by this unless their children attend these schools. I know that I spend very little time with my family during the week now, and that is a potential loss to the mothers.

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]]> By: Marion http://www.amotherinisrael.com/free-kindergarten-teacher-shortage/comment-page-1/#comment-22957 Marion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:58:31 +0000 http://www.amotherinisrael.com/?p=7391#comment-22957 This year they'd be saying "boo". With the new Ofek program we were told DS#2 had to arrive by 8:00 (last year it was 8:30). Also, honestly, it's disruptive when everyone else has arrived and one child "sails in" so much later. I know in both my big boys' ganim they have tefilla at 8:30 and mifgash right after...and my kids HATE missing mifgash, even when there's a valid reason for it (like a medical appointment). This year they’d be saying “boo”. With the new Ofek program we were told DS#2 had to arrive by 8:00 (last year it was 8:30). Also, honestly, it’s disruptive when everyone else has arrived and one child “sails in” so much later. I know in both my big boys’ ganim they have tefilla at 8:30 and mifgash right after…and my kids HATE missing mifgash, even when there’s a valid reason for it (like a medical appointment).

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]]> By: Marion http://www.amotherinisrael.com/free-kindergarten-teacher-shortage/comment-page-1/#comment-22956 Marion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:55:47 +0000 http://www.amotherinisrael.com/?p=7391#comment-22956 I hope gan doesn't end at 4:00! I have one who's supposed to be in until 3:30 this year and we take him out every day (actually, the hasa'a does) and put him in "regular" tzaharon until 4:45 because, frankly, I refuse to have my 5 year old come home to an empty house and I can't work "only" 7.5 hours a day and maintain my full-time status. I pay extra for the "extended hour" at daycare so I can get a full workday in. 4:00, though the same ending time as the meonot, is a useless 2 hours, especially when currently tzaharon goes until 4:45. Who can afford to LOSE time? I hope gan doesn’t end at 4:00! I have one who’s supposed to be in until 3:30 this year and we take him out every day (actually, the hasa’a does) and put him in “regular” tzaharon until 4:45 because, frankly, I refuse to have my 5 year old come home to an empty house and I can’t work “only” 7.5 hours a day and maintain my full-time status. I pay extra for the “extended hour” at daycare so I can get a full workday in. 4:00, though the same ending time as the meonot, is a useless 2 hours, especially when currently tzaharon goes until 4:45. Who can afford to LOSE time?

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