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		<title>By: mother in israel</title>
		<link>http://www.amotherinisrael.com/shidduch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-10944</link>
		<dc:creator>mother in israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark: &quot;Now she is frummer than I am&quot; I&#039;m sure it wasn&#039;t the last time such a thing happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: &#8220;Now she is frummer than I am&#8221; I&#8217;m sure it wasn&#8217;t the last time such a thing happened.</p>
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		<title>By: mother in israel</title>
		<link>http://www.amotherinisrael.com/shidduch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-10943</link>
		<dc:creator>mother in israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yael, I thought that the drift occurs with women as well. Interesting to hear your perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yael, I thought that the drift occurs with women as well. Interesting to hear your perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: mother in israel</title>
		<link>http://www.amotherinisrael.com/shidduch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-10942</link>
		<dc:creator>mother in israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess paid matchmakers might have helped your husband&#039;s brothers? (See part VII).  But as hard as it is, it&#039;s also hard in the secular world, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess paid matchmakers might have helped your husband&#8217;s brothers? (See part VII).  But as hard as it is, it&#8217;s also hard in the secular world, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: mother in israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mother in israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ima2seven: Thank you for sharing. I am glad you found someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ima2seven: Thank you for sharing. I am glad you found someone.</p>
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		<title>By: mother in israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mother in israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, AYS. We should be careful not to judge singles or anyone else. And I often wonder how certain people found a mate! As you say it doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re a better person. I wish you the best in finding a life partner, at the right time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, AYS. We should be careful not to judge singles or anyone else. And I often wonder how certain people found a mate! As you say it doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re a better person. I wish you the best in finding a life partner, at the right time.</p>
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		<title>By: AYS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AYS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am single 29 year old in the diaspora, so I can speak from personal experience on this topic.  While I am religiously stable, and happy to be so, this is a real challenge.  There is an enormous religious drift among my single friends towards not being religious at all.    

Im not sure why we all feel the need to play the blame game.  When some-one tells me the reason women in their late 20&#039;s or 30&#039;s are single is because they are too picky I always wonder which things we should drop for our mythical checklists. Kind to strangers? Do I not deserve this? Ability to talk about their feelings? Are these values/options reserved for women who marry in their early 20&#039;s?

I think there are as many self-centered, ugly, unstable, immature, overweight (or whatever other negative term you can think of) women who have married in their early 20&#039;s as there are attractive, stable, mature, happy, easy going, slim women in their 30&#039;s who are not married. I feel that it is as much luck as anything else - you have to be open to meeting someone and settling down at the right time.

I also feel that people often equate being married/settling in a relationship with the statement &quot;I must be a valuable person because I have found one person in the world who loves me enough to marry/settle down with me&quot;.  In particular within the religious community being married equates being a participating member of the community which is a heavy burden to carry.  At least in the orthodox community that I live there is very little room or understanding for single people &gt; age 25.  

In the meantime I am going to continue studying, developing myself as a person and be the best person I can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am single 29 year old in the diaspora, so I can speak from personal experience on this topic.  While I am religiously stable, and happy to be so, this is a real challenge.  There is an enormous religious drift among my single friends towards not being religious at all.    </p>
<p>Im not sure why we all feel the need to play the blame game.  When some-one tells me the reason women in their late 20&#8242;s or 30&#8242;s are single is because they are too picky I always wonder which things we should drop for our mythical checklists. Kind to strangers? Do I not deserve this? Ability to talk about their feelings? Are these values/options reserved for women who marry in their early 20&#8242;s?</p>
<p>I think there are as many self-centered, ugly, unstable, immature, overweight (or whatever other negative term you can think of) women who have married in their early 20&#8242;s as there are attractive, stable, mature, happy, easy going, slim women in their 30&#8242;s who are not married. I feel that it is as much luck as anything else &#8211; you have to be open to meeting someone and settling down at the right time.</p>
<p>I also feel that people often equate being married/settling in a relationship with the statement &#8220;I must be a valuable person because I have found one person in the world who loves me enough to marry/settle down with me&#8221;.  In particular within the religious community being married equates being a participating member of the community which is a heavy burden to carry.  At least in the orthodox community that I live there is very little room or understanding for single people &gt; age 25.  </p>
<p>In the meantime I am going to continue studying, developing myself as a person and be the best person I can be.</p>
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		<title>By: shraga</title>
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		<dc:creator>shraga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 28 year old bochur once came to the Steipler, and asked him when he would meet his intended mate (It says in Sota 2b that 40 days before a child is born the daughter of ploni will marry ploni). And he is still waiting.

The Steipler told him &quot;You met her already, but rejected her&quot;.

So the bochur started to cry and asked - what should he do now.  

The Steipler said: &quot;find someone more or less compatible, and make a good Jewish family together&quot;.

Obviously his advice included properly checking out that the prospective mate. Certainly a wise Chacham, or Rov/Rebbitzen should be consulted to help decide in each case what needs to be checked out, and which are the silly attitudes that caused the tragedy (of not finding one&#039;s mate yet) in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 28 year old bochur once came to the Steipler, and asked him when he would meet his intended mate (It says in Sota 2b that 40 days before a child is born the daughter of ploni will marry ploni). And he is still waiting.</p>
<p>The Steipler told him &#8220;You met her already, but rejected her&#8221;.</p>
<p>So the bochur started to cry and asked &#8211; what should he do now.  </p>
<p>The Steipler said: &#8220;find someone more or less compatible, and make a good Jewish family together&#8221;.</p>
<p>Obviously his advice included properly checking out that the prospective mate. Certainly a wise Chacham, or Rov/Rebbitzen should be consulted to help decide in each case what needs to be checked out, and which are the silly attitudes that caused the tragedy (of not finding one&#8217;s mate yet) in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: ima 2 seven</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 05:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really enjoying the series. I am also spellbound by the srugim show that you mention. I lived in Katamon - exclusively - for almost 6 years, and only the last one as a married woman. I got married just before turning 27 but had been frightened by friends that if I was there and reached 28, it would just all be over for me. 

I honestly am shocked at the number of women friends I have who are accomplished, kind, religious, wise --- and over 35 and single. Many of them were dating for marriage before I was. And I encountered the men who complained about the situation but had too many choices and simply didn&#039;t want to make up their mind. Or had it too easy to bother settling down. 

Even at 26 I married someone 30 and divorced. At least I knew he knew how to commit. :  ) While some at the time thought I was crazy to take on a divorcee, a stepson - and a crazy ex-wife - I married a man who was serious, committed, and knew (and knows) what it means to be a husband. 

I really feel for young women out there and I do think it is a &quot;tragedy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really enjoying the series. I am also spellbound by the srugim show that you mention. I lived in Katamon &#8211; exclusively &#8211; for almost 6 years, and only the last one as a married woman. I got married just before turning 27 but had been frightened by friends that if I was there and reached 28, it would just all be over for me. </p>
<p>I honestly am shocked at the number of women friends I have who are accomplished, kind, religious, wise &#8212; and over 35 and single. Many of them were dating for marriage before I was. And I encountered the men who complained about the situation but had too many choices and simply didn&#8217;t want to make up their mind. Or had it too easy to bother settling down. </p>
<p>Even at 26 I married someone 30 and divorced. At least I knew he knew how to commit. :  ) While some at the time thought I was crazy to take on a divorcee, a stepson &#8211; and a crazy ex-wife &#8211; I married a man who was serious, committed, and knew (and knows) what it means to be a husband. </p>
<p>I really feel for young women out there and I do think it is a &#8220;tragedy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Anna T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Anna T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 05:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband pointed out the following to me: on the one hand, education is usually separate (girls/boys). On the other hand, people are, mostly, expected to pave their way on their own, unlike in the Charedi world. For my husband and his brothers, there weren&#039;t too many offers. My husband was 27 when we got married and he was the youngest. His brothers were 36 and 30.
 
Add high standards and unwillingness to compromise, and the desire to pursue education and/or fun before marriage, and that&#039;s what you get. There are both religious and secular inhibitions preventing couples from getting together. That&#039;s where our big problem, vs. the Charedi world, lies (imho).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband pointed out the following to me: on the one hand, education is usually separate (girls/boys). On the other hand, people are, mostly, expected to pave their way on their own, unlike in the Charedi world. For my husband and his brothers, there weren&#8217;t too many offers. My husband was 27 when we got married and he was the youngest. His brothers were 36 and 30.</p>
<p>Add high standards and unwillingness to compromise, and the desire to pursue education and/or fun before marriage, and that&#8217;s what you get. There are both religious and secular inhibitions preventing couples from getting together. That&#8217;s where our big problem, vs. the Charedi world, lies (imho).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In my experience there is a certain drift in men’s religiousity over the years.&lt;/i&gt;

This is SO true. And I know it firsthand. When I was in my early 20&#039;s, I would only date frum (honestly frum) girls, then in my later 20&#039;s and beyond, I began to date some less frum girls, basically to widen the pool of eligible women. Finally, I dated one girl who wasn&#039;t frum ... and married her.

Now she is frummer than I am :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In my experience there is a certain drift in men’s religiousity over the years.</i></p>
<p>This is SO true. And I know it firsthand. When I was in my early 20&#8242;s, I would only date frum (honestly frum) girls, then in my later 20&#8242;s and beyond, I began to date some less frum girls, basically to widen the pool of eligible women. Finally, I dated one girl who wasn&#8217;t frum &#8230; and married her.</p>
<p>Now she is frummer than I am <img src='http://www.amotherinisrael.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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