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		<title>By: Yosefa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yosefa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I recall, you&#039;ve written about the issue of having an anonymous blog. I think this topic touches on one benefit of being anonymous.  I guess it depends on the focus of your blog, your career/profession,, and your community as to whether the challenges of remaining anonymous outweigh the benefits of blog-fame.  I think one way to deal with this is to guest post anonymously on another&#039;s blog. I&#039;ll tell you its not easy to get readers if you want to be truly anonymous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I recall, you&#8217;ve written about the issue of having an anonymous blog. I think this topic touches on one benefit of being anonymous.  I guess it depends on the focus of your blog, your career/profession,, and your community as to whether the challenges of remaining anonymous outweigh the benefits of blog-fame.  I think one way to deal with this is to guest post anonymously on another&#8217;s blog. I&#8217;ll tell you its not easy to get readers if you want to be truly anonymous.</p>
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		<title>By: zur</title>
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		<dc:creator>zur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My impression is the main thing is to always have time  to listen to a teenager.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My impression is the main thing is to always have time  to listen to a teenager.<br />
<span class="cluv">zur recently posted..<a class="5ab272b16e 24161" rel="external" href="http://leibnizgodelaristotle.blogspot.com/2012/08/and-therefor-plato-was-right-that.html">Professor  Brian Caplan: &quot;Take the minimum wage. Normal people like it because the government waves a magic wand and makes mean employers give helpless workers extra money, with zero blowback. So inane, yet so convincing to a psychologically normal human.&quot;</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip u 24161 2017e" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.amotherinisrael.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv-premium/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span> <span class="dofollow">(dofollow)</span></p>
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		<title>By: abba's rantings</title>
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		<dc:creator>abba's rantings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; A problem with getting support in you r community . . .&quot;

good point, although in this respect i can&#039;t imagine that going to a neighboring community would protect privacy that much more]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; A problem with getting support in you r community . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>good point, although in this respect i can&#8217;t imagine that going to a neighboring community would protect privacy that much more</p>
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		<title>By: staying afloat</title>
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		<dc:creator>staying afloat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I stopped blogging largely because of this.  A lot of what I wanted to write about concerned one of my older kids, and it&#039;s not fair to this child.  I always said that though I blogged anonymously, I would never write about something that I would be upset if someone I knew (or my kids knew) found out.  You have to assume people will figure out who you are, and at least two people did while I was blogging, one of whom I hadn&#039;t seen or spoken to in almost five years. 

And I wish I could share this issue, because there would be a lot of support here.  A problem with getting support in you r community for a teenager is that sometimes, that child is walking around looking fine.  They want babysitting jobs, a spot on a league team, friends in school.  And getting support in your own community can involve having people who see your child every day, or may one day be hiring them, know this very private thing about them. As may their friends&#039; parents, who may want to stay objective but find it difficult. I think the easiest venue of support would be to make contacts in a neighboring but similar town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped blogging largely because of this.  A lot of what I wanted to write about concerned one of my older kids, and it&#8217;s not fair to this child.  I always said that though I blogged anonymously, I would never write about something that I would be upset if someone I knew (or my kids knew) found out.  You have to assume people will figure out who you are, and at least two people did while I was blogging, one of whom I hadn&#8217;t seen or spoken to in almost five years. </p>
<p>And I wish I could share this issue, because there would be a lot of support here.  A problem with getting support in you r community for a teenager is that sometimes, that child is walking around looking fine.  They want babysitting jobs, a spot on a league team, friends in school.  And getting support in your own community can involve having people who see your child every day, or may one day be hiring them, know this very private thing about them. As may their friends&#8217; parents, who may want to stay objective but find it difficult. I think the easiest venue of support would be to make contacts in a neighboring but similar town.<br />
<span class="cluv">staying afloat recently posted..<a class="2762c02e00 24156" rel="external" href="http://bsiyatadshmaya.blogspot.com/2011/11/very-cool-posts.html">Very cool posts</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip u 24156 3e065" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.amotherinisrael.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv-premium/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span> <span class="dofollow">(dofollow)</span></p>
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		<title>By: abba's rantings</title>
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		<dc:creator>abba's rantings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i don&#039;t think it is right to write publicly about one&#039;s older children (old = old enough to find it online). and i think it&#039;s very wrong to write about personal matters with reference to them, aside from exceptional cases (e.g., a kid who needs an organ donation and the publicity can help)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think it is right to write publicly about one&#8217;s older children (old = old enough to find it online). and i think it&#8217;s very wrong to write about personal matters with reference to them, aside from exceptional cases (e.g., a kid who needs an organ donation and the publicity can help)</p>
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		<title>By: abba's rantings</title>
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		<dc:creator>abba's rantings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[baruch dayan emet]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>baruch dayan emet</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah Katsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah Katsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 04:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ariela,
I went yesterday but you can comment on the blog,if you haven&#039;t already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ariela,<br />
I went yesterday but you can comment on the blog,if you haven&#8217;t already.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 03:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am so sad about Ricki - her poor mother and family. What  a horrible thing ! I am abroad or would pay a shiva call. Please say something from me if you go]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so sad about Ricki &#8211; her poor mother and family. What  a horrible thing ! I am abroad or would pay a shiva call. Please say something from me if you go</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree there is not so much activity on parenting forums when it comes to teens. The advice usually given is put your relationship first or detach and leave the work to mentors, coaches, therapist, rhab treatment or thearaputic treatment centers , juvie etc 

The challenge of keeping kids intrinsically motivated and on the derech is very challenging , but the challenges other parents go through - crime, stealing, damaging property , drunkard driving, hard drugs, selling drugs, pregnancy  makes an argument on the length of a sleeve look silly. 

I summarized Unhappy Teenagers by William Glasser  http://tinyurl.com/cyosv27

Forums are pretty important. Most people don&#039;t have a clue what parents of challenging kids go through and are often very judgmental about them not being consistent and firm in laying boundaries. 

The truth is that some kids are more easy wired than others 

For most of the working with approaches - CPS collaborative problem solving - is the how to 
see http://livesinthebalance.org]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree there is not so much activity on parenting forums when it comes to teens. The advice usually given is put your relationship first or detach and leave the work to mentors, coaches, therapist, rhab treatment or thearaputic treatment centers , juvie etc </p>
<p>The challenge of keeping kids intrinsically motivated and on the derech is very challenging , but the challenges other parents go through &#8211; crime, stealing, damaging property , drunkard driving, hard drugs, selling drugs, pregnancy  makes an argument on the length of a sleeve look silly. </p>
<p>I summarized Unhappy Teenagers by William Glasser  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/cyosv27" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/cyosv27</a></p>
<p>Forums are pretty important. Most people don&#8217;t have a clue what parents of challenging kids go through and are often very judgmental about them not being consistent and firm in laying boundaries. </p>
<p>The truth is that some kids are more easy wired than others </p>
<p>For most of the working with approaches &#8211; CPS collaborative problem solving &#8211; is the how to<br />
see <a href="http://livesinthebalance.org" rel="nofollow">http://livesinthebalance.org</a><br />
<span class="cluv">Allan Katz recently posted..<a class="3a821d0a7a 24148" rel="external" href="http://allankatz-parentingislearning.blogspot.com/2012/08/modeling-behavior-is-behaviorist-not.html">Modeling Behavior is behaviorist &#8211; Not SDT or CPS</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip u 24148 4771f" alt="My Profile" style="border:0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.amotherinisrael.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv-premium/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span> <span class="dofollow">(dofollow)</span></p>
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		<title>By: Regular Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regular Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I  have 2 very challenging teenagers. I cannot even believe the situations I have dealt with.

B&quot;H, I am fortunate to have a wonderful psychologist who is both understanding and generous with his time.

I&#039;m also fortunate that as an older mom, many of my friends have already finished with their difficult teens, have seen them straighten out and are able to advise me on how to cope or at least lend a sympathetic ear.

Too bad if my kids feel their privacy is invaded by me talking to my friends or to an anonymous on-line forum - I would not have been able to survive without doing so. 

The Imamother subforum for parenting teens is open to the public so I don&#039;t post there. There is a closed forum for OTD/Extremely rebellious teens but not much posting there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  have 2 very challenging teenagers. I cannot even believe the situations I have dealt with.</p>
<p>B&#8221;H, I am fortunate to have a wonderful psychologist who is both understanding and generous with his time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also fortunate that as an older mom, many of my friends have already finished with their difficult teens, have seen them straighten out and are able to advise me on how to cope or at least lend a sympathetic ear.</p>
<p>Too bad if my kids feel their privacy is invaded by me talking to my friends or to an anonymous on-line forum &#8211; I would not have been able to survive without doing so. </p>
<p>The Imamother subforum for parenting teens is open to the public so I don&#8217;t post there. There is a closed forum for OTD/Extremely rebellious teens but not much posting there.</p>
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